tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post5356601308382393079..comments2023-06-08T10:32:31.438+01:00Comments on An Honest Drug: Skinny PrivilegeFiona C. http://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-17675699072966327382014-10-24T15:01:19.644+01:002014-10-24T15:01:19.644+01:00'... I think women need to be a lot more suppo...'... I think women need to be a lot more supportive of each other instead of spewing vitriol about body size all day. We need to accept ourselves and and learn that other people's bodies are none of our business.' Can I second this? The person who makes me feel the worst about how I look is my mother, who is constantly telling me I'm fat even though I am a UK size 10/12. She harks back to my ideal weight being when I was 17 and a size 6 after a prolonged illness, and probably dangerously thin. I see photos of myself from back then and they are awful. I know some of it stems from her own body paranoia (she's gained a great deal of weight as she's grown older), but she and her cronies are all to ready to comment on other peoples' appearance (starting with their weight) and it drives me nuts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-64210455332147581472014-10-20T21:17:34.762+01:002014-10-20T21:17:34.762+01:00I definitely agree with you. As someone who was ve...I definitely agree with you. As someone who was very thin when I was younger and who is now a size 10, I have been on the receiving end of negativity for being both a thinner person and a larger one. When I was a teenager, people called me flat-chested, said I didn't eat enough, etc. and when I gained weight in adulthood, I got many negative comments from people around me at the time of my weight gain. I have come to realize that as a woman these days you just can't win....be thin and people will snark about how you must not eat; be larger and people think you're a lazy and eat cake on the couch all day. Lose the weight that you gained and people will whisper about you starving yourself. What is a woman to do these days?<br /><br />People forget that body shaming goes BOTH ways, it is not just fat shaming. Women who are naturally thin do not deserve to take any crap about their body type and neither do larger women. I personally do not think it is appropriate to comment on anyone else's body as the weight of another person is nobody's business but their own. A person's weight is affected by genes, environment, personal choice, and even illness or medical conditions and all of these things are, once again, no one else's business! I will never understand why people waste so much time snarking/judging/worrying about other peoples bodies, seriously, get a life!! One of the life lessons that I have learned as I have gotten older is that I am a much happier person when I mind my own business and "live and let live". I have learned to accept and make peace with my own appearance and that is all that matters, I do not want negativity in my life and that includes negativity towards others and also myself. I know lots of women who make the "skinny bitch" sort of comments and I must wonder why they waste their time being so negative; you are only bringing unhappiness into your own life and that of the person you are insulting and you can be jealous and rude all you want but it won't make you any skinnier. I think if people are unhappy with their bodies, they need to redirect their energies into lifestyle changes rather than being negative towards the sizes of others in some misguided attempt to make themselves feel better. Another thing I have noticed over time is that it seems to be mostly WOMEN who make body-shaming statements. I hear so many women say things like "I've gotten too fat, no men will want me blah blah" but it is usually not men in my experience who make disparaging comments about women's bodies or appearance. Women are becoming their own worst enemies and then blaming it on men......what a crock of sh*t. I think women need to be a lot more supportive of each other instead of spewing vitriol about body size all day. We need to accept ourselves and and learn that other people's bodies are none of our business.Vulcan_Butterflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11347496680018156439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-14639811817999893522014-10-18T09:05:18.231+01:002014-10-18T09:05:18.231+01:00What is presented as 'plus size' on the ca...What is presented as 'plus size' on the catwalks is a pretty shitty substitute for the great variety of real plus size people out there. Obesity is a problem in the UK; the discussion of obesity is very poorly run in the media, however, and it tends to run very much on the fat-shaming side. <br /><br />I'm happy to identify interchangeably as slim or thin, but even girls who are visually 'worryingly thin' are still humans; it would be rude to call them 'sacks of bones' or accuse them of anorexia. Having also had teaching on it now, it's incredibly offensive to see the anorexia paranoia - to me, it doesn't feel like this self righteous behaviour actually gives a shit about those with the disorder. Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-76156190040474697292014-10-18T08:58:21.927+01:002014-10-18T08:58:21.927+01:00Exactly! Size and build are very individualistic p...Exactly! Size and build are very individualistic parameters. Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-21064287791959690862014-10-18T08:57:05.594+01:002014-10-18T08:57:05.594+01:00It's a cultural ideal, which, because it's...It's a cultural ideal, which, because it's so built into our societies and changes so slowly, we don't realize how completely meaningless it is. (I don't tend to worry about 'body shapes', as if I look good in something I will wear it regardless of if I'm a melon/apple/screaming hollow void, but I would probably be a pear shape? My thighs are of thunder.)Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-64812876771762805132014-10-18T08:52:55.967+01:002014-10-18T08:52:55.967+01:00God yeah; I completely forgot to mention the ablei...God yeah; I completely forgot to mention the ableism of it (I really need to get more involved in disability rights); might add that in. <br />Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-40746560259925150672014-10-18T08:50:54.742+01:002014-10-18T08:50:54.742+01:00Yeah, a friend of mine is obscenely tall, and ther...Yeah, a friend of mine is obscenely tall, and there's no way that she can fit in a size eight; the idea of skinny = healthy is so western centric and blinkered. Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-24428258359098201882014-10-18T08:45:33.488+01:002014-10-18T08:45:33.488+01:00The hypocrisy is pretty awful, yeah. There's c...The hypocrisy is pretty awful, yeah. There's certainly privileges associated with being of an 'acceptable' shape if one is fat; it's those with hourglass figures who aren't 'too big' who are seen in media when talking about body positivity. Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-35156764126479806532014-10-18T08:40:20.751+01:002014-10-18T08:40:20.751+01:00Oh, I'm so sorry that people were so hurtful t...Oh, I'm so sorry that people were so hurtful towards you. :'( You have every right to throat punch them.Fiona C. https://www.blogger.com/profile/05182195892673926740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-56902766388713306752014-10-17T03:13:06.012+01:002014-10-17T03:13:06.012+01:00yeah...personally I hate the "healthy" e...yeah...personally I hate the "healthy" euphemism. They're a "healthy" size. Since when did health had anything to do with how a person looked? I know plenty of "healthy" people who have health problems or smoke. And not to completely go off the rails with the PC stuff, but that's some ableist language. So if you aren't healthy, you're ugly? 5th Avenue Gothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15631503951105585937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-49301280405659315012014-10-16T02:56:48.174+01:002014-10-16T02:56:48.174+01:00Also I have bigger friends who are an ok weight an...Also I have bigger friends who are an ok weight and skinny friends who are an ok weight for their body types, both get insulted. People don't get there are a huge range of body types and it is different for everyone! Laura Morriganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402692693911867276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-81255273431732416012014-10-16T02:55:22.552+01:002014-10-16T02:55:22.552+01:00Too fat, too thin, too odd shaped, sigh! People ar...Too fat, too thin, too odd shaped, sigh! People are never happy and have to pull down others to make themselves feel better. I am a pear shape, a bit smaller and flatter at the top and big bum and thighs for my size. I think everyone should just shut up about giving each other crap or at least start worshipping pear girls like me (joking)Laura Morriganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402692693911867276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-17869792422449361182014-10-16T01:04:50.311+01:002014-10-16T01:04:50.311+01:00I am technically overweight, thankfully I hide it ...I am technically overweight, thankfully I hide it well enough that I don't even recall the last comment regarding my weight.... so perhaps I am privileged in that sense. It's detestable behavior, to promote body equality and turn around and shame a thin woman for simply being thin... and vice versa.Madame Mari Mortemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092879436628518422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-17357947194150618182014-10-16T00:35:06.495+01:002014-10-16T00:35:06.495+01:00I agree with you. Prior to having my son, I was ve...I agree with you. Prior to having my son, I was very thin and had people put their hands around my waist. My weight gain while pregnant was also very sad. People made me cry. They always commented about how big I gotten, how I was carrying twins when I really wasn't..I was carrying one baby!. Usually, it was the same people who used to put their hands on my waist that made those comments. I think we should support each other, no matter our shape or size. Sylviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15046068654128830933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-68557262406864316172014-10-15T21:14:59.589+01:002014-10-15T21:14:59.589+01:00I totally agree with you. I think its all about ba...I totally agree with you. I think its all about balance, everyone has their own natural size and shape that is healthy for them and people should recognise that. We aren't gingerbread people, we aren't all cut the same. Lexington the 1sthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13943902109024256924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4492381592705349921.post-11863956177170054402014-10-15T20:40:36.789+01:002014-10-15T20:40:36.789+01:00Most of all, the general idea of when does 'pl...Most of all, the general idea of when does 'plus size' and 'skinny' begin is laughable for me. Some time ago I saw models described as 'plus size', while they looked perfectly normal. For me their image was the one of an average adult (in her 30s) woman doing exercises to keep her body in shape. No bones sticking, but no curves either, and the only one difference I saw between them and the runway models, was their chest size, to be honest. It seems like because your boobs are too big to fit a size 0 blouse, then you're certainly plus size, yeah sure...<br />On the other side of the coin, the whole 'skinny panic' is also a giant facepalm for me. I know it's a bit different in Poland - as far as I know, the USA ad UK struggle with obesity plague. It means besides having people with really unhealthy weight, there are also more curvy girls. My plus size friend felt really ugly in Poland, but she visited London once and she was really in awe how random men on the street viewed her as beautiful. So, as you can see, Eastern European average size is smaller than Western. I feel really uncomfortable with the thought someone could tell me that I'm skinny - because in my country I'm just slightly below average, more 'slim' than 'thin'. You, too, don't look 'too thin' in my eyes, but slim. And it's really unpleasant to think this skinny paranoia goes so far to call the average looking girls 'too thin'. I can understand somebody is triggered by the view of a real anorectic girl, the one being nothing but bones and skin, not the one just trying to lose weight to be slim. But if it would come so far to call your or my figure a triggering one... well, to be honest, I would only shrug my shoulders with distaste, because it would mean it's not my body which is ill, but their mind. I am average, not skinny.<br />I'd say eg. Razor Candi is skinny, but still she is far from anorectic and skeleton, to be honest, she is what I'd call a healthy skinny.Rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08973135277948728309noreply@blogger.com